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31-Mar-2010
I have to agree with you Kevin. I am sooooo tired of the scriptures from Malachi being taken out of context and use to break congregations.
Hi. I think your next step is to question the value of the bible in general. When you read the bible from cover to cover, you won’t be able to stop asking yourself: “Do I really believe all this happened? Or is this a primitive take on reality from a primitive people?” Why is it that people, no matter where they are from, almost always adhere to the religion of their parents? Only ONE can be right. . . or none. I love that you question preachers! Consider digging even deeper if you dare
eliasdumbs, did you hear ANYTHING presented?
Heb 10 – “Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time. . . Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin. ”
Christ’s offering of Himself ABOLISHED the temple and priesthood, and ended all DEAD offerings. God now only accepts LIVING offerings (Rom 12:1; 1 Pet 2:5; Heb 13:15).
SHOULD A CHRISTIAN TITHE?
YES! Malachi 3:7-11 says in verse 7 that we should return to what? in verse 8 which says you have robbed God in what? in TITHE and
OFFERINGS, and there is consequence that
brings you UNDER A CURSE in verse 9. When you EAT that which is holy you come under a CURSE(Prov. 20:25); and all that is WITHIN YU comes under a CURSE( Psal103:1;5 because you are feeding on a CURSE ;the 2nd curse is the curse of your house(Zec. 5:1-4) ;3rd the curse of finances(Hag. 1:1-11.
Good video Bro!
I can attest to everything you said on here when I look at my personal life. I have manage to hang on to money and give to those who REALLY need assistance sense I stopped supporting my pastor in building his empire with a “jesus” front. I could not for the life of me hold on to money and then when I would by myself something, I always felt guilty like I should have given it to the church even though I had just given a 3rd of my pay check to it, ugh. Freedom is bliss. . .
christianpreachr, I think if the Christian fails to follow the clear “guideline” given by Christ in scripture, and instead follows another that is contrary to what Christ said, then I would say that is either ignorance of scripture or willful disobedience.
In other words, when Christ taught about giving (Mk 12:44; Mt 5:38-42; Lk 6:38), He made no mention of using the “tithe” as a guideline. Instead, He said one is to give generously and without expectation — even giving ALL if necessary.
It is most certainly tradition and mental conditioning, but I don’t think its ignorance of scripture. I would say its more of following a guide line. . . The Law also prohibits killing, and we see that as sin. Either way, interesting video.
Again, these kinds of vids by NYTN prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the fake prosperity gospel is just that, a total fakery of the highest order. It is a modern day ponzi scheme.
Salvation is free folks. Jesus told his disciples, freely ye have received, freely ye are to give.
Ok NYTN I’ll try this one more time then. I am a tither at my local church but I don’t mind, thats just me. However, I’m glad that you and Ringo are exposing these pimps for what they really are. These pulpit pimps are heartless, and have no real love for their members, just their money and their credit card numbers and it’s a shame. Alot of us are single parents, widows, working class etc. where every dime we make counts. So for that I appreciate the exposure.
YOU ARE CURSED WITH AN EVERLASTING CURSE!!!. . . I’m just playing. But they will say that about you so get ready for that. But great job, man but since you debt free and all. . . uh. . . . can a brother borrow a few ends? I mean, how can a brother be down, cuz? ~UncleBernie2~
Congratulations, thanks for the info!!
No joking. . I am up late worrying about this. My situation is nearly identical (and some numbers are dead-on) and was just sitting here trying to think of some plan. Low and behold. . here I came across your vid. Heh. . almost ‘word for word’ you are speaking for me I’d swear it lol.
Listen. . you are right about this. It is good stewardship and consequently you are in a better position to help the Church if need be.
Not ‘tithing’ Simply because you are able to do it joyfully!
Amen, amen amen!
christianpreachr, you are indeed correct and that is indeed why I gave the definition. However, it is still erroneous to call any kind of monetary giving a “tithe”.
Why? Because the “tithe” is a specific and mandatory offering dictated under The Law of Moses — which is now ABOLISHED.
So Christians are using an obsolete term, and they are doing so because of tradition, mental conditioning, and ignorance of scripture.
This is interesting. I think that people will get confused with your definition of tithe. I think of the tithe as a requirement of good stewardship, but you noted that your definition is people expecting in return. . . if many people regard the tithe as such, I can easily see them moving away from pastors who teach it. Perhaps we have lost its true meaning. I would call your giving a tithe. But that’s by a definition of giving 1/10 of your increase.
this is a wonderful post. thank you for doing this. hey, would you PLEASE do a post about leroy thompson ?
“tithing’ is a FALSE DOCTRINE
Oh my goodness Not please help me out your field wouldn’t be called Healthcare Informatics. The reason why I ask is because that is what I am in class for since I am still looking for work. I hope I can find a job in it as my courses combine healthcare and it support. I feel so blessed now. I will email you the rest privately.
Thanks for sharing this. I was just thinking on the tithing topic earlier this morning. It amazes me how many Pastors, some of whom I really respect and that are not Propserity Pimps, still promote tithing. . .
Also, I did want to say I’m glad you did this video because people need to hear that God can and will bless you, whether you “tithe” or not because if you’re His child, He LOVES you (Matthew 7:11).
NYTN. Hey, you know I’m with you on this whole scam people use, especially when they get on TBN and try to manipulate people with Scripture to give. I may do a video on this where I will say that I’d have more respect for them if they just openly said “Help us keep the ministry going” and then went on into preaching the pure gospel. But they misuse Scripture to manipulate people, and that makes me sick. I know you’re a good brother; no need to explain your giving.
CRoadwarrior, thanks for weighing in. In telling my own personal story, I do share some opinion about my experience.
However, I do hope you can agree on the spiritual lesson; that is: When giving money to a church, it must be given cheerfully and freely, without expectation of getting something in return.
Also, it should be noted that though I don’t “tithe”, “sow seeds” or give “sacrificially”, in financial terms alone I give way more than “10%” to the work of ministry and to those in need.
Interesting video. I always wondered about all those folks out there who are “rich” who never tithe or even go to church. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said, but I’m glad you are one person who proves a point I always thought about.
Rapturenow, I was a member of a non-traditional pentecostal church — not a “prosperity” church, In fact, my pastor at that time was for years at the forefront of speaking against this kind of teaching. His teaching on tithing and sacrificial giving made sense at the time, but then my eyes were opened.
NOTE TO VIEWERS: This video is not a commentary on just so-called “prosperity preachers”. These kinds of teachings are prevalent in virtually every American Christian denomination and/or movement, cutting across all demographic and philosophical lines.
cont’d
What also helped me is to learn the difference between bills and debt. Bills are something you will always have (electric, water, 1 credit card, etc). Debt happens when you have bills, but no money to pay them.
Again, congratulations. Now get out there and celebrate with a 50 inch LCD TV with a Bose Surround Sound system (just kidding, that’s the gadget freak talking).